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190. Theme Park Roulette: Epcot Edition

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What happens when you surrender control of your Disney day to the spin of a wheel? Join us as we experiment with Theme Park Roulette: Epcot Edition, letting chance dictate everything from attraction choices to dining options. What do you do when some of the biggest bangers in the park aren't available? What choices would you make?

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Weekend of Musical Contrasts

Alicea

Hello everyone , I'm Alicea .

Nathan

And I'm Nathan

Alicea

Welcome to this week's episode of Adventures and Mousecapades .

Nathan

This week we're going to talk about a little bit of cultural whiplash that we have just undergone .

Alicea

Oh yeah

Nathan

Last weekend we saw the Backstreet Boys play at the S phere in Las Vegas .

Alicea

That was awesome .

Nathan

That was an amazing show .

Alicea

Yes

Nathan

Last night we saw Weird Al play a Backstreet Boys parody live at the White River Amphitheater here in the Seattle area . Also amazing , but the complete opposite end of the spectrum .

Alicea

Complete opposite . Not just that song , it was a , it was a full concert .

Nathan

yes , yeah , it was so much fun last night .

Alicea

It was a lot of fun .

Nathan

It was a very late night we had a meet and greet . It was after the show . No joke , we didn't get home until like 2 15 in the morning .

Alicea

yeah , and this was all four of us . The kids were with us too .

Nathan

Yes

Alicea

Lots of fun .

Nathan

Which is ironic because I think the latest we were out in Vegas was like one .

Alicea

Yeah , we didn't have to travel that far either .

Nathan

True , it took us an hour to get home because there was a major highway that was closed for the weekend . So thanks , Seattle . Anyhow .

Alicea

What are we talking about this week , Nathan ?

Theme Park Roulette: Epcot Edition

Nathan

Well , what we're doing this week is another episode of Theme Park Roulette . This time it's Epcot edition . So Alicea is going to spin the wheel and we're going to pick all sorts of stuff . We're going to pick . Basically , we're going to let the wheel choose our day and figure out what we have to go do .

Alicea

Yeah

Nathan

And yeah , let's see how this thing works .

Alicea

All right , so we already know the park . It's Epcot , so now we're going to find out what type of wait time we are going to have .

Nathan

Oh God

Alicea

So like standby lightning lane , those are the options .

Nathan

Okay , no whammies , no whammies . VIP tour . Let's go .

Alicea

Oh , I don't have that as an option .

Nathan

Damn it .

Alicea

Should I add that for the future ?

Alicea

No !

Nathan

Yes !

Alicea

Because that would be not . . . Okay

Alicea

I add that for the future . standby .

Nathan

Looks like we are getting

Alicea

No , All right Types . . . of rides . So for this I have rides 10 years old or older .

Nathan

Okay .

Alicea

Rides under 10 years old .

Alicea

Opening day rides , or opening , I guess , a couple . . . years

Alicea

rides yeah , something like that .

Nathan

Yeah , all right Click , click , click , click , click , click , click , click , click , click .

Nathan

We pay for really top notch sound sound effects here .

Alicea

Rides 10 years or older

Nathan

Rides 10 years or older , okay , so what does that rule out ? So that's gonna .. .

Nathan

I mean clearly that's gonna knock Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind off .

Alicea

Yeah , um for Epcot . . . It knocks off Guardians and Remy's Ratatouille Adventure . That's it ,

Nathan

okay . . .

Alicea

I mean , there's attractions too . . .

Nathan

Frozen

Nathan

No , I think that was Because that is a rework of the original ride , so I will give you . The original ride is more than 10 years old .

Alicea

Yeah .

Nathan

But when did they redo it and does that count ?

Alicea

That would yeah , that would knock it off too . It opened in 2016 .

Nathan

Okay , and we're not going to count that . That's just a glow up of the original .

Alicea

We're going to count that as a new ride . I mean , they totally redid that ride , okay .

Nathan

Yeah , I'm okay with this . I'm okay with this . We can leave it off , okay . I mean mean , I'm not super interested in it , so it's fine .

Alicea

Okay

Nathan

All right . Uh , let's see . The next thing we need to spin the wheel for is types of restaurants . Spin that wheel , Alicea !

Alicea

It's spinning . Look at it spinning .

Spinning the Wheel for Our Day

Alicea

It is landing on , oh , character dining okay , oh , um . So that gives us two options .

Nathan

All right , all right , all right okay , all right , I guess we're doing all character dining all day yeah okay now .

Alicea

Now we're gonna do the month , the week and the day okay month we have april , okay . Right in the middle spring break , okay . Great week number uh .

Nathan

Week number three okay all right towards the end of spring breaks ? Yeah , all right .

Alicea

What day in the week , day of the week is ?

Alicea

Tuesday . Okay , so that is the . That is is Tuesday , april 15th .

Nathan

Okay , middle of oh , that's still going to be spring , yeah .

Alicea

I'm looking up on Touring Plans to see how busy this day was at Epcot .

Nathan

Great , oh , and this is the past . So we also just lost Test Track because it was still getting worked on . Yes , yes , yes , wonderful Okay .

Alicea

Touring Plants has Epcot at a seven . Oh joy .

Nathan

Yes , Epcot is at a seven . Is this Flower and Garden ?

Alicea

I believe so yeah .

Nathan

Okay , I'm going to override some of our . I'm gonna . . . I won't override , I will augment some character dining with . Just we'll lay in the simple fact that we're gonna hit some food booths

Alicea

okay , just so we don't get too hungry . I guess

Nathan

exactly , we're hangry yeah , I , if we're knocking off Frozen Guardians , ratatouille and Test Track . There's still a lot of stuff , true , but we're also going to need to find some things to spend some time with , and what no better thing to do than go drinking around the world ?

Alicea

in Epcot Got it .

Nathan

Okay .

Alicea

All right , Okay . So yeah , Epcot , it's a busy day because it's spring a busy day ?

Nathan

yeah , all right , so we're gonna do . How do we want to do this ? Uh , we have to . Well , man , how are we gonna do this ?

Nathan

I guess we have to do character dining . We got to do breakfast , right , and then we got to do some rides . Find something for lunch . Some more rides . It's going to be a short day .

Nathan

I think it'll be a later lunch , okay , yeah , like a late brunch . Some rides we're not rope dropping , okay , we went hard the night before , maybe not in a park , knowing us .

Alicea

Okay , okay , okay , all right , and I have the average wait times for that specific day for all of these rides . Okay , got it . So when are we getting to the park ? Nine o'clock , oh , epcot is a later park anyway .

Nathan

Yeah , I'd say 10 . Okay , I'd say 10 . And let's just assume , since we got to start off , we got to do food , we're doing character dining , we're doing Garden Grill .

Alicea

Yes for breakfast

Nathan

For breakfast .

Alicea

Yeah , yeah , yeah ,

Nathan

I mean we would probably do Garden Grill for breakfast anyway .

Alicea

Yeah

Nathan

Like , love that breakfast , love all those characters there . This is the rotating restaurant there in the Land Pavilion , and we have had such amazing memories and experiences with characters . Yeah , yeah , and that's actually . I think we've said that's one of our favorite , if not our favorite , character dining before .

Alicea

They have changed it , though I went with . Who did I go with ? I think I must have went with the kids , or something .

Nathan

Perhaps I was there , who knows ?

Alicea

No , I don't think you were . I think it was when we were down there for the holidays and you stayed at home with your folks .

Nathan

Oh yes .

Alicea

Or stayed at the rental with your folks , yeah , yeah , yeah . And I think the kids and I went and I snagged garden grill reservations for breakfast and I was very excited about that because we had had great interactions there . They changed the breakfast a little bit

Nathan

Okay

Alicea

And the character interactions weren't what we were used to . Now it was like Christmas Eve , I think ?

Nathan

The holidays . . . yeah , yeah .

Alicea

Yeah , it wasn't crazy busy though , but it was yeah .

Nathan

Yeah .

Alicea

I know why the kids wanted to get on Guardians . That's what it was . Yeah , and they wanted to get on Guardians . That's what it was .

Nathan

Yeah , and they wanted to get out of there . Yes , and go get on the ride .

Alicea

Yeah , yeah Well maybe I don't know , but it still wasn't what we remembered . Now , stuff changes and sometimes there's down days , so hopefully this was just down day . Yes , we are going to enjoy this garden grill breakfast immensely , because it is going to be amazing , oh heck yeah , it'll be like as fantastic as always .

Nathan

Yeah , and we will figure we're going to be there for an hour solid

Alicea

Mm-hmm .

Nathan

Yeah , yup , yup , yup .

Nathan

Okay okay . So 10 o'clock breakfast reservations . 10 o'clock breakfast . We're out

Planning Our Morning at Garden Grill

Nathan

around 11 .

Alicea

Around 11 . Okay .

Nathan

All right , I picked food . Alicea , it's your go . What are we doing first here ?

Alicea

We've got a couple things right there , true , and since we just had breakfast at Garden Grill , we have to go on Living with the Land .

Nathan

Well , I mean , that seems very logical .

Alicea

It's right there .

Nathan

Yeah , it's just the natural order of things , yeah .

Alicea

I mean we kind of looked around while we were eating , because that goes around living with or rotates through living with the land and we have to make sure the land's doing okay .

Nathan

Right Quality control .

Alicea

Yes , yeah .

Nathan

A different perspective . You know , instead of overlooking , we're down in . Yeah , get it , I get it .

Nathan

Okay , so Living with the Land was a 22 minute average wait .

Alicea

Yeah

Nathan

That's like a what 12 , 15 minute boat ride something

Alicea

Yeah , something like that

Nathan

All right , let's call this . . . carry the one . . . I don't know . Call it 45 minutes ish to be done . Probably Probably have to hit a restroom break in there somewhere .

Nathan

Not during the ride , by the way , just so everybody is clear .

Alicea

Yeah , we're not like those couple people that have just yeeted themselves out of the boat because they're . . .

Nathan

idgits .

Alicea

Yes , I was going to say a little bit stronger word than that , but I stopped myself .

Nathan

Thank you for not making me making me beep something .

Alicea

Okay , so Living with the Land we get on it at around . What'd you say 11 ?

Nathan

Yeah , 11 , say we're done at 1145 with the with the wait .

Alicea

Okay

Nathan

Yeah , yeah , okay , all right .

Nathan

So that leaves . . . I'm up next right . I mean we're there , we're in the building , let's go hit Soarin .

Alicea

All right, Soarin Around the World is a 46-minute wait .

Nathan

Okay , so that's , we'll call that even math 12 : 30 on the ride . Yeah , okay , give it an hour . We'll just we're keeping math around here .

Alicea

Yeah

Nathan

So we're done at 12 : 45 with Soarin . That's a long wait .

Alicea

That is a long wait .

Nathan

Of all the things that haven't been crossed off the list that is the longest wait that we will have today .

Alicea

Yeah , Soarin is popular . It's a fun ride .

Nathan

[singing] Popular

Alicea

Yep Exactly .

Nathan

I watched that on the plane to and from Vegas .

Alicea

It's a good movie .

Nathan

It's such a good movie .

Alicea

Alright , so 12:45 , we're done with Soarin .

Nathan

I have a suggestion . I'm sending you mental waves oh okay .

Alicea

Well , I was just going to make this easy and continue right around there and do figment

Nathan

oh , we have a disconnect .

Nathan

Got it okay .

Alicea

Which way were you going ?

Nathan

nope , it's fine figment , it is

Alicea

that's a short one

Nathan

it is a short one , it's also weird a fever dream , uh-huh , desperately in need of a revamp yes , okay , so it'll take probably five minutes to walk over there .

Nathan

Yeah , ten minutes , I mean we're probably going to stop and grab a drink on the way .

Alicea

Okay .

Nathan

Well , yeah , there'll be a food booth or two .

Alicea

Yeah , there's a couple things over there . I was going to say after figment was probably when we'd do something , okay .

Nathan

That's fair . Oh yeah yeah , okay , I got it , let's fair . Oh yeah , yeah , okay , I got it , let's go . We'll do Figment . So on that day that was a 15-minute wait , we'll call it a half hour for round math . Okay , so 1.15 . I already know what we're going to go do right after Figment and that is not on your list . But I'm calling an audible here . Okay , and leveraging our Disney Visa card not sponsored and we're going to hit the character photo spot for Disney Visa folks . That is right there in the Imagination Pavilion , nice .

Alicea

Yeah , right next to it , yeah .

Nathan

That usually has a little bit of a line .

Alicea

Sometimes it really depends . Since it's Flower and Garden garden festival . It might have a little more of a line called a half hour total yeah , uh , no , that goes pretty quickly .

Nathan

Okay , I'd say 15 okay ,

Exploring Attractions and Afternoon Plans

Nathan

all right , so that gets us to 130 . Yeah , what's next ?

Alicea

are you counting your picture thing oh ?

Nathan

yeah , absolutely .

Alicea

Well , I'm trying to figure out if I want to go into Showcase yet or if I want to move over to Spaceship Earth . Towards the front , I think I'm going to move over towards Spaceship Earth .

Nathan

Okay .

Nathan

Are you going to Spaceship , earth , or are you just going in that direction .

Alicea

No , I'm going to Spaceship Earth .

Nathan

Oh , you're going to make us double back . It's okay , mm-hmm . Okay , fair enough , all right , so we're doing Spaceship Earth , yep , spaceship Earth , spaceship . Wow yeah , spaceship Earth . 27-minute wait , plus the ride .

Alicea

Uh , 27 minute wait plus the ride , we'll call this . So half hour is 45 total plus walk over . Yeah , okay , so that's 215 , 215 .

Nathan

oh , right , in the heat of the day , right in the heat of the day , since we have started in that direction and I'm getting thirsty , we need margaritas .

Alicea

Okay .

Nathan

And so we're going to the Grand Fiesta Tour starring the three caballeros . Okay , 12 minute wait . Plus the ride , plus a marg Call it a half hour , what do you think ? Plus the walkover oh , call it 45 minutes . We are not fast walkers when we are in a park on a hot day 45 minutes , yeah , so three o'clock . Yeah , I'm assuming that we may have stopped and grabbed a snack somewhere along the way at some point , possibly .

Alicea

We'll see .

Nathan

I mean , there's all sorts of food booths around you never know . This is , I think , where I'm going with . That is just to say this is a two main meal day and there will be random grazing along the way .

Alicea

Yes .

Nathan

Yeah .

Alicea

All right .

Nathan

That's off to you , your turn . So we're in Mexico .

Alicea

Okay .

Nathan

We've got some margs going .

Alicea

Yeah .

Nathan

Please don't double back let's just keep going .

Alicea

Oh , there's a bunch that we've missed , but okay , um

Nathan

oh , there are some things that we've missed , so help me , god , we , if you select what I think you're going to select I am taking the other one

Alicea

I'm I'm not going to well , I don't know because . Okay , we could double back to mission space

Nathan

yeah it's not too far ,

Alicea

but we just had margaritas .

Nathan

True

Alicea

it won't bother me

Nathan

look , I'm doing green .

Nathan

If we're doing mission space , you go on with your bad self and do orange . No , thank you .

Alicea

There's nothing else over there because Test Track is closed and it's three o'clock .

Nathan

Yes .

Alicea

But we need to hit it .

Nathan

Okay .

Alicea

So I'm doubling back and do Mission Space .

Alicea

I'll do orange . You don't have to do orange .

Nathan

Okay , good , I'll wait for you .

Alicea

You can do green .

Nathan

Okay , I'll wait for you . There's usually a food booth over there somewhere . I'll get a beer while I'm sitting and waiting . I only had a 10-minute wait . You were 18 .

Alicea

I had an 18-minute wait yeah .

Alicea

So Mexico back over to Mission Space , is what Like ? Another 10-minute walk , 15-minute ?

Nathan

walk , yeah , maybe .

Alicea

And the ride's probably like what Five , five minutes . It's been so long since we've been on Mission Space ,

Nathan

I wonder why

Alicea

you don't want to go on it . That's why ,

Nathan

correct .

Nathan

Okay , okay .

Alicea

So let's see , so that's what Like 345 , 350? .

Nathan

Yeah , yeah , okay , 345 .

Alicea

350 ? Yeah , yeah , okay 345 .

Nathan

Keep the math easy , okay , all right , so now it's back to me .

Alicea

Don't forget about the attractions too .

Nathan

I know , I know , but like we're in the wrong , like we had a thing going . We were going to go backwards around the world and then you decided to cross back over through the front of the park .

Alicea

This is kinda what we do .

Nathan

Canada far and wide impressions de France , reflections of China's kind of back there . Turtle Talk with Crush is by the seas , with Finding Nemo and friends which you just walked away from .

Nathan

What are we doing here ?

Alicea

No , we had already gone past it .

Nathan

But we were at least over there . I mean , the seas is next to the land . We need to talk about strategy .

Alicea

Point of fact . Yeah , we never go in a straight line when we are at a park .

Nathan

Well , especially at Epcot , because you're usually drinking around the world , it's hard to walk in a straight line .

Alicea

No we go . We have the best of intentions and it never ends up that way , so this is just more realistic .

Nathan

Okay , that's fair .

Alicea

We're Mission Space , are we going straight through and going across to the other side and doing seas , or are we going into Showcase

Nathan

I mean , it's been six hours at this point since our last full meal .

Alicea

Uh-huh .

Nathan

Are we doing late brunch and early dinner ? We can , okay .

Alicea

Lunch at Akershus is until 4.40 .

Nathan

Hmm .

Alicea

And then dinner starts at 5.25

Nathan

all right , so it's still early . Plus you have food booths and we've been snacking , I'm sure . Oh my gosh , this is so difficult . I hate to do this . I think , oh man , I am torn . Do we walk back across ? I think , oh man , I am torn . Do we walk back across , double back , say hi to Walt along the way , see what's going on in the new middle of Epcot there , and then go do the seas with Nemo and friends ? Or do we just start meandering around World Showcase and seeing what's what over there ?

Alicea

This is literally what I just said .

Nathan

I know .

Alicea

You're just talking through it again . Yeah , Okay okay , okay , your choice , I will go along , since I messed it all up , yeah .

Nathan

We are not on the same page today .

Alicea

Nope , you totally switched directions from what I was thinking too . So nice

Nathan

Alright , let's just do it . We're walking back through . We're going to the seas with Nemo and friends .

Alicea

Okay , yep Mission space to the seas .

Nathan

Yeah , because exercise .

Alicea

It's not that far .

Nathan

It's not that close either . Alright , so it's going to be a 15 minute walk . It's a 30 minute wait . It's a 10 minute ride . No , it's less than that Seven minute ride . Uh , I will be parched . Probably . Stop and have us grab something to drink along the way . Call this an hour .

Alicea

Okay , so done at 445 .

Nathan

Done at 445 .

Alicea

And we're down there . We're going to go do Turtle Talk with Crush .

Nathan

Totally fine with me . I'm down with that .

Alicea

So that's probably another half hour .

Nathan

Yeah , I think so .

Alicea

So that's 5.15 . Yeah , we're done with talking with dude .

Nathan

We're done talking with dude . Now . We're definitely not close to the Akershus Royal Banquet Hall . I'm going to be getting a little bit hungry . We're going to grab some potato soup in . Canada at the booth and then go watch Canada Far and Wide .

Alicea

Okay , we could do that . Alright , I agree with that , that potato soup .

Nathan

So good , between a snack and the 15-minute show , we'll call that a half hour , so we're at 545 .

Alicea

Well , I'm just going to keep going around that way .

Nathan

Excellent .

Alicea

Thank you and we'll do Impressions de France , de France , de France .

Nathan

Have we seen that ?

Alicea

No , I don't think we have , but there's also a Beauty and the Beast thing over there too .

Nathan

I think it flops back and forth . Oh , maybe it does , Like it does one showing of one and then one of the other . Yeah , yeah yeah , well , we haven't seen either yes , so we'll go do whatever is in , whatever is there and it's about an 18 minute show for the impressions show . Right guessing that's around what beauty and the beast is too right , you're probably gonna get a wine or a you know slushy or something like that rosé slushy . There you go .

Character Dining at Akershus

Alicea

I'm thinking of you since we just got the potato soup , I will not get the liquid cheese in a bread bowl we are working towards dinner I know I understood , but I'm not . That's why I said I'm not gonna get it okay , okay , I'll have to save it for another trip , I guess there you go .

Nathan

So that gets us to what say 6 , 15 yeah , that sounds good .

Alicea

Is it dinner time ?

Nathan

I think it is dinner time . Okay at this point we only got one soup yes , we only got one soup , of course , so it's time for it's time for dinner

Alicea

and it was much , much better than the last time we had the soup , which was ridiculously salty

Nathan

yes , of course , because they've learned to keep the cap on the salt bottle .

Nathan

Yeah , yes all right so we're going to yeah , we're gonna go head over to norway , okay , and we're gonna do our dinner at akershus royal banquet hall , which is , uh , we're going to join Disney princesses for storybook dining inside a medieval castle with soaring archways and cathedral ceilings .

Alicea

Yes , we have never done this . Is this a buffet ? I think this is a buffet .

Nathan

I don't remember .

Alicea

We haven't been there before , I'm just so . Pricing for akashus is 69 per adult , which is ages 10 and up , and 46 per child , which is ages three through nine , and character dining with princesses over in norway and epcot . We have not done this before , but I think this is just looking at the menu . I'm fairly certain it's a buffet .

Nathan

Got it .

Alicea

It does have Norwegian influences for food , so there's a lot of words here that I cannot pronounce .

Nathan

You don't want the kjotkakker .

Alicea

Whoa excuse you .

Nathan

Hey , it's Norwegian meatballs .

Alicea

Okay , yeah , I'll have meatballs . Okay great Meatballs mashed potatoes , salmon , cabbage ew carrots and green beans , chicken with apple and fennel preserves , that sounds really good . That does sound good .

Nathan

Mac and cheese yes , the Norwegian classic mac and cheese . Mac and cheese yeah .

Alicea

And they have plant-based dining too , as well as allergy-friendly offerings .

Nathan

They have an assortment of Norwegian-inspired desserts they do . I don't know what that means .

Alicea

They don't say what they are .

Nathan

It's an assortment . Okay , if you have to ask .

Alicea

I'm sure at some point we will hit this as a character breakfast .

Nathan

Is it character dining all day ?

Alicea

Yes , it is all day . Okay , I don't know why I said breakfast . That's usually the meals that we get are character breakfast . True , sorry .

Nathan

It's okay , I forgive you .

Alicea

At some point we will hit this character meal . I think we should . Anyway , it'd be nice to hit all the character meals . Yeah , because we like the character meals . We do indeed . All right , character dining usually takes a little bit longer , true though this is a buffet , so it's going to be at least an hour .

Nathan

Yeah , for them to do the full loop and for you to see everybody , yeah yeah , so we're looking at 7 50 . Do you want to say 7 30 ? Yeah , we'll say done at 7 30 , so at an hour and 15 minutes , including your commute , and we just happen to magically have the right reservation time for whatever we wandered up over there . Of course , yeah , I mean , we're professionals here we know what we're doing . We're sure , okay , what are we doing next ?

Alicea

um , I think we've hit all rides we have we just need to do reflections of China it

Nathan

would be nice to reflect on China

Alicea

um . Where is Norway uh ?

Nathan

Northern europe

Alicea

that's not helping me ,

Nathan

it's not near it's . It's not near , uh , China at all gosh , I cannot remember I am pulling up the map right now . Oh , China's right next door . Norway is next to Mexico .

Alicea

Oh my gosh , I had this totally the wrong spot

Nathan

I had in my brain . Norway is where Germany is , for some weird reason ditto .

Alicea

Okay , so you might hate me , but you might not hate me , because I know we just had dinner , but we are going over to italy

Nathan

okay

Alicea

because it's time for a limoncello margarita

Nathan

yeah , it is .

Nathan

It is always time for a limoncello margarita . It could be 8 am , it would be time for a limoncello margarita . It could be 8 am , it would be time for a limoncello margarita . Unfortunately , the park doesn't open that early

Alicea

no , um , I didn't check to see what time luminous was at

Nathan

10 o'clock .

Alicea

Oh , it's at 10 o'clock , okay ,

Nathan

it's pretty much always at 10 .

Alicea

Yeah , all right . So dinner at Akershus done at 7 30 . We're gonna go over over to Italy for a limoncello margarita and probably just chill there for a bit .

Nathan

Probably . I would nominate that we position ourselves to watch Luminous from Japan at the gate . That is one of my favorite places to watch an Epcot show from .

Alicea

Okay , are we going to hit Reflections of China ?

Nathan

Yes , Because we have to go past China to go back towards Italy . So let's amend our plan here and say we do Akershus , then we hit reflections of China 15 minutes and then we get to Italy . So that's 7.45 . After Reflections of China we get over to Italy . We're done there at 8.45 or so .

Alicea

Okay , so 8.45 done .

Nathan

Yeah , we have an hour , 15 to kill .

Alicea

We're right next door to the American Adventure and it's always nice to take a look in there and see what exhibits yeah what exhibits that they have available that little gallery space .

Nathan

Yeah , I'm down with that . That is a great way to kill . We probably need to kill , we'll say 45 minutes , and that gets us over to the Japan gate at 9 , 30 to . You know , stake out a halfway decent spot to watch luminous at 10 . I think we've nailed this .

Alicea

I am checking one little thing here because ,

Nathan

oh , you're going to get facts involved here .

Alicea

Yes , because this is during the Epcot Flower and Garden Festival . and they happen to have the Garden Rocks concert series .

Nathan

Oh ,

Alicea

let's see , we said April 15th .

Nathan

Yes , ma'am

Alicea

Okay , nobody's there , never mind .

Nathan

Never mind , never minding Yep , nobody's there .

Alicea

That was a good show that night it was . It was so that just means it wasn't crazy .

Nathan

Crazy , crazy . The band was Nobody's there . It was opened by manny moore . It's great , great music

Alicea

It's because we were going over towards the american adventure and the garden rocks . Um yeah , the , the pavilion is right there so I was like oh , how crazy is it going to be ? It's not going to be crazy . We are going going to enjoy the run of the place day there in the America Adventure Pavilion .

Evening Plans and Alicia's Surgery Update

Nathan

But alas , they're not going to be there that late , nope , so missed them , missed them , I think that's it . Yeah , yeah , we're done with the American Adventure . Yeah , I'll just leave that At 9.30 , then we park and enjoy the fireworks at 10 . The park day is closed . Our day is done . Alicea , we did it , we did it . Congratulations .

Alicea

We're not tired at all .

Nathan

No .

Alicea

Our feet are not hurting , our knees are not hurting . We're good , no .

Nathan

We've done a very efficient tour of Epcot . We haven't doubled back at all , we haven't walked side to side . It's been pretty much flawless on our behalf in terms of execution .

Alicea

Which is our typical park day anyway , Of course flawless .

Nathan

I mean , that's our typical day . Yeah , that's just how we live life Flawless , flawless . If there's one word that people think of when they think of us , it's crazy . I mean , it's flawless .

Alicea

Mm-hmm .

Nathan

Yeah , anyhow , that was fun . Yeah , I like these yeah .

Alicea

Epcot's down .

Nathan

Yay , epcot's down , epcot's done .

Alicea

Done , it's done .

Nathan

Yay .

Alicea

Sorry , now I want to go to Epcot .

Nathan

We will do that again sometime soon , and by soon I mean in June , yeah , which is in a while . We have some things to get through before now , and then we have some cruises , and we will talk about this ever so briefly here . Alicea's broken , and as we sit here , or actually as this comes out , in a week or so , Alicea is going in for some major surgery . Alicea has to have some open heart surgery . She has some plumbing in her aorta that needs to get fixed . They're going to put a fresh new garden hose in there , a little bit of duct tape . Be all good , we will be with you . We will have a bunch of episodes . Well , we do have a bunch of episodes that we have prerecorded and will be great . We will be on socials here and there , as we're able . I'll share some updates , but Alicea is going to be off work for a few months . It looks like yeah .

Alicea

For recovery .

Nathan

Yep Home taking care of her for the month of September . So you may see us online more , you may not . We have all sorts of things that we need to do We intend to rewatch the West Wing . We intend to probably finally pick up the Villains series that we started what nine months ago ?

Nathan

That we need to watch a whole bunch of Disney Vill villains movies . So we can finish that little competition off .

Alicea

They're just Disney movies . They're not Disney villain movies .

Nathan

Yep Anyhow . So yeah , Positive vibes . Happy thoughts , pixie dust all appreciated for Alicea and her road to recovery . We'll keep you all posted , for sure . With that , please do remember we are not affiliated with Disney or any of their subsidiaries . These are personal opinions and suggestions based on our own experiences . We recommend working with a travel agent or contacting Disney directly to plan your perfect vacation .

Alicea

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Alicea

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Nathan

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Alicea

Thank you for listening . We will be in your ears next week . Thank you for flying Star Tours , bye-bye .