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236. Theme Park Roulette: Animal Kingdom Edition

Nathan Novak Episode 236

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We handed our entire Disney’s Animal Kingdom plan to a roulette wheel and then had to live with the consequences. The result is equal parts strategy and chaos: a specific date in early March, a standby only game plan, and a strict mobile order food rule that forces us to think about real world logistics like what is actually open, where you can order, and how long it takes to get seated.

From there, we nerd out on wait time data and crowd forecasting, comparing predicted versus observed waits and sharing the tools we use when we want to go full theme park analyst. We talk TouringPlans, point you toward thrill-data.com for deeper wait time history, and explain how to use numbers to set expectations without letting your whole day get hijacked by a spreadsheet.

The wheel also makes some truly wild calls: rope drop lands on Zootopia Better Zoogether, we weave through Gorilla Falls and Kilimanjaro Safaris, and we schedule Feathered Friends in Flight around showtimes while debating the right kind of “morning sweets.” Then we take a long detour to the Oasis Exhibits, grind through Na’vi River Journey, and finally score a mobile order lunch at Flame Tree Barbecue complete with a very real warning about aggressive birds and unprotected trays.

We close strong with Expedition Everest, Festival of the Lion King, a character meet at Adventurers Outpost, Discovery Island Trails, and a big swing at Avatar Flight of Passage. If you like Disney trip planning, Animal Kingdom itineraries, and honest talk about what actually works in the parks, hit subscribe, share this with a Disney friend, and leave a review so more fans can find us.

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Welcome And Roulette Rules

Nathan

Please stand clear of the doors. For favor, mantenganse a left. Please stand clear of the doors.

Alicea

Because this year's the wildest ride in the wilderness. Hello everyone, I'm Alicia. And I'm Nathan. Welcome to episode 236 of Adventures and Mouse Capades.

Nathan

Today is another day. This week is another week. This episode is another theme park roulette. This time, yeah. Ta-da! This time it's Animal Kingdom Edition.

Alicea

Yes.

Nathan

Alicia, can you explain to our new listeners what the heck this means?

Alicea

Um, sure. So uh we're basically leaving everything up to chance here. We are spinning a roulette wheel choice wheel, whatever you want to call it, on pretty much all of the things. And we already spun the wheel and did Animal Kingdom this time. So we are going to do, as you said, Animal Kingdom edition.

Nathan

This is going to uh uh figure out when we're going and what we're doing and all the rest of that stuff. Sometimes these turn out great. Sometimes we have serious debates with the fates.

Alicea

Yes, yes, yes. All right, so you're gonna have to find like a wheel choice sound or something and insert them in here, I guess.

Nathan

I've never found one that I like before, so why start now?

Alicea

I mean, I can do a search because I'm much better at research. You know I am.

Nathan

Oh, you are.

Alicea

Yes.

Nathan

Yay. Sure. If you find one, I'll use it.

Alicea

Okay, okay, okay.

Nathan

Future Nathan here. That did not, in fact, happen. What you hear from here on out in terms of sound effects, I found on my own.

Choosing A March Date

Nathan

You're welcome.

Alicea

All right, so first off, we are going to see when we are gonna do this.

Nathan

Okay, let's go.

Alicea

What month? What month are we gonna do?

Nathan

All right, ready. Let's say it together. Spin that wheel.

Alicea

Uh-huh. All right, we are going for March. Ooh. March. All right, what week are we going for? This could be good. This could be spring breakish. Yes.

Nathan

The weather. We'll see. Probably okay. We'll see. All right. One, two, three, spin. Spin. That. That wheel. Wheel.

Alicea

Gosh.

Nathan

Your level of excitement.

Alicea

Okay. First week of the month. Ooh. All right. What day? I'm liking this. We are leaving this entire thing up to chance. All right.

Nathan

Okay.

Alicea

Day of the week is Tuesday.

Nathan

Oh.

Alicea

All right. So this is the first Tuesday in March. That is Tuesday, March 3rd. Uh-huh. And uh I'm going to go into touring plans and see what we had for Tuesday, March 3rd of this year.

Nathan

2026.

Alicea

2026. Thank you, Len Testa. Thank you, Len. Okay. This was predicted at a five. Whoa. Do you want that the actual was?

Nathan

Yeah, hit me up. Two. Len, we need to talk. You're a little off.

Alicea

The actual was a two. Okay. So um, so I have, because of all the wonder of touring plans, I have the actual

Wait Time Nerd Tools

Alicea

observed times in line for every single ride here. Okay. So this is awesome.

Nathan

So another good source that I might suggest, other than touring plans, that folks may want to look into is thrill-data.com because this is another place that lets people just absolutely nerd out about wait times over time. You can see uh predictions on when lightning lanes will sell out and where, like through the morning, like the return time difference. So like at 9 45, the return line for Rise of the Resistance was at 8 p.m. at night or something like that. Like it has so much data. That's thrill-data.com. So between thrill data and touring plans, you have the world is your oyster when it comes to data about what's going on in the parks. Anyhow, I just wanted to plug another website that we are completely unaffiliated with. Hashtag notad and hashtag not sponsored.

Alicea

Yes, definitely not. Okay.

Nathan

All right. So now we have to figure out whether we are doing like a lightning lane premiere pass, whether we are like just doing standby. What are we doing? All right, so Alicia, let us spin. Spin. That wheel. Wheel. There you go.

Standby Plan And Mobile Order

Alicea

We are doing standby. Which is, I mean, it with a two, I think that's fine.

Nathan

Sure, but walking into the day, we thought it was going to be a five.

Alicea

That's true.

Nathan

So we will be pleasantly surprised. How's that? All right.

Alicea

All right. Meals, meals, meals, meals.

Nathan

Uh there's not a lot of options. So get what we get. This is obviously this is going to well, not obviously, but options would be like signature dining and fancy sit-down restaurants or character meals and stuff. Or yeah, yeah. Yeah, mobile order or just snacks and stuff.

Alicea

Yeah. All right. So we have spin that wheel. Spin that wheel. Okay. Uh mobile order food. Okay. Okay. So it has to be mobile order. Um. This is interesting because, well, with mobile order, you can do casual restaurants, but not all casual restaurants have mobile order.

Nathan

It's okay. My favorite restaurant to get food from in Animal Kingdom is mobile order. All right. So we're but we are leaving it up. I said restaurant, not lounge. So don't everybody just like jump on me saying, but I thought no man's lounge. No, that is my favorite lounge.

Alicea

And that is not a mobile order.

Nathan

That's not mobile.

Alicea

No, no. Okay. So for this day. Oh, this is nice. The high was 74 degrees. And the low was 60. Yeah. Park hours at Animal Kingdom were 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. with early entry at 7.30. The adult ticket price was $164.

unknown

Okay.

Alicea

I didn't pull the kids' price. It's probably $10 less.

Nathan

Right. It's not going to be that different.

Alicea

Lightning Lane multi-pass for Animal Kingdom for this day was $19. Premier Pass was $179. And they also have a Lightning Lane single pass for Avatar Flight of Passage. And that was $16. But we aren't doing any of that other than, you know, just the adult ticket price. Right.

Nathan

So we are slumming it.

Alicea

Yep. Are we doing early entry?

Nathan

7 30 is really early.

Alicea

Really early. Yeah. Let's just say, okay, just because I know Animal Kingdom, we know Animal Kingdom, and we know there really aren't a lot of breakfast options.

Nathan

Yeah.

Alicea

We're going to do breakfast at our hotel or something.

Nathan

Yes. Yeah. This is just us. We're not bringing the kids. Yeah. If it was just us and we're not bringing the kids, honestly, we probably would have had a reservation for dinner or for excuse me, for breakfast at Tusco House.

Alicea

However, this is not sit-down restaurants.

Nathan

This is mobile order food. But I scored that reservation like a month ago. So your wheel can Okay, whatever. All right, breakfast at the hotel.

Alicea

Breakfast at the hotel. We're going in at we'll say rope drop.

unknown

Okay.

Alicea

We'll get there right when it starts at eight.

Nathan

Okay.

Alicea

All right. Let's see what we're gonna do.

Nathan

If the wheel doesn't choose

Rope Drop Zootopia Twist

Nathan

the safari, I'm gonna be very upset. What are we rope dropping, Alicia?

Alicea

We are rope dropping Zootopia, better Zoogether.

Nathan

Um, I need to have a conversation with the wheel. Wheel, can you meet me off stage here for a second? What the hell are you doing? Okay, we're good to go.

Alicea

All right, Zootopia Better Zoo Gether.

Nathan

Um I did get a chance to do this ride a little while ago when I had a solo day at Animal Kingdom. It I this is not a ride. Let's just start there. This is entertainment or an attraction. I don't know. It's not a ride, but anyhow, it was cute.

Alicea

Okay. So I'm going to remove that from the wheel.

Nathan

Okay.

Alicea

It is not in the wheel anymore.

Nathan

All right. We have to keep track of time.

Alicea

Yes. Now, this one, I don't have any time lists for it at all. That's just gonna be, I mean, it's gonna be a walk-on. Nobody's gonna do that. Exactly. About how long is that show?

Nathan

Uh I would it's probably eight minutes or so.

Alicea

Okay.

Nathan

I would say, and the queue is really long to walk through.

Alicea

Yes, it is.

Nathan

So we I would say 15 total.

Alicea

Okay. We get in at eight o'clock. We have to get over there.

Nathan

Yeah.

Alicea

So get on do a show.

Nathan

We're done. Call it 8 30 so we don't have to do a lot of math.

Alicea

Yeah. We're good. For this, we usually round.

Nathan

Yeah. Yeah. Zootopia.

Alicea

So done at 8 30.

Nathan

Yeah.

Alicea

All right, wheel. What are we doing next? Spin that. No whammies. No whammies. No whammies.

Gorilla Trail Then Safari

Alicea

All right. We are doing the Gorilla Falls Exploration Trail. Okay. Mm-hmm. I put everything in there. All right. This is this is going to be an interesting one.

Nathan

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm down with seeing some animals, but not rope drop-ish unless you're talking safari.

Alicea

That was the one right before this. I was like, oh, come on. It's still early. Okay. So I'd I'd say that's kind of right around the tree of life, isn't it? So, like what, 15 minutes to go through all that?

Nathan

No, we're gonna sit and watch some big gorillas do some big gorilla stuff.

Alicea

So done at nine.

Nathan

Yeah.

Alicea

Okay, okay. Let me remove Gorilla Falls Exploration Trail. Alrighty. And see what we are doing next. Perfect. We are doing the Kilimanjaro Safaris at nine o'clock. This is this is actually great because it's still in the morning and the animals, it's not it's not right at the very first thing in the morning, which we have done before, and it's actually not great to do super early in the morning if it's a little bit cooler of a day, because the animals don't want to get out of bed.

Nathan

Yeah. True.

Alicea

So this is nine o'clock for the Kilmanjaris Safaris. That takes a little bit to get to, and the queue is really long. And we are also going to try and figure out um the wait times. The wait time. So the wait time is 25 minutes.

Nathan

Okay. Which is the same thing. Now that was the average across the day. We haven't drilled into everything. But we'll say that feels about right.

Alicea

Yep. Observed weight was about 25 minutes. Predicted weight was 78. Wow. So all right. So we'll say we'll we left Gorilla Falls at like 9 a.m. We got there at what, like 9.10, you think?

Nathan

Yeah, probably.

Alicea

Okay, 9.10 plus 25 minutes.

Nathan

So 9.35.

Alicea

Yeah, 9.35.

Nathan

And that is It's a 25-ish.

Alicea

Yeah.

Nathan

Yeah, call it 10.

SPEAKER_01

Right?

Nathan

Is that where we're Yeah.

Alicea

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

A few moments later. Hey, the lion on that ride was amazing.

Alicea

Yes. I mean. And they're all new lions, too. We haven't seen these lions.

Nathan

Rr. Rrr. Rarr. That's what they sound like, right?

Alicea

Yeah. Apparently, there is a female, there's a lioness there that is extremely vocal now.

Feathered Friends And Snack Debate

Alicea

So it's kind of cool.

Nathan

A chatty kitty.

Alicea

Yes. Chatty Kitty. Got it. Okay. 10 a.m. Next. Ready though. Spin that wheel. We are now going to do some entertainment. Ooh. Our entertainment is Feathered Friends in Flight. And we are going to actually see the first show because it's not until 10 45 a.m.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

Alicea

So we have a little tiny bit of downtime walking all the way over there.

Nathan

Okay. We're going to have to get a snack.

Alicea

A snack.

Nathan

While we're waiting.

Alicea

So, okay.

Nathan

We're going to mobile order a snack while we're waiting for feathered friends in flight.

Alicea

All right.

Nathan

Is that allowed?

Alicea

I guess so, yeah. Um, do I need to spin the food wheel?

Nathan

No.

Alicea

Okay. That's we're just doing that for like lunch. We're just and dinner. Okay. Yes. Yes. We will mobile order a uh oh, what can we mobile order? Do they have churros on mobile order? There is a Zuri's sweet shop.

Nathan

We're not gonna mobile order a regular cart churro. That's bad in Florida.

Alicea

Well, okay. What exactly are you planning on mobile ordering then?

Nathan

Um I don't know. I'd have to look at a list of places that accept mobile order.

Alicea

I can tell you the places that accept mobile order. Okay, you do that. But okay, this is 10 in the morning. We have Flame Tree Barbecue, Harambe Market, Pizza Fari, Situli Canteen, and Zuri's sweet shop.

Nathan

Well, it's gonna be something from Zuri's.

Alicea

Yeah, that's that's I'm pretty much what I said, but okay. Folks, this episode is highly planned. All right, so we're looking at Zuri's. Do you want me to look at the menu? I mean, we'll figure something out. Okay.

Nathan

Even if it's just a bottle of water or they have food and spirits.

Alicea

I can't look online because there's no times available right now. It's like it's closed. At our current time, Zuri's sweet shop is not open.

Nathan

What a Z-U-R-I?

Alicea

I was just trying to find a menu.

Nathan

Yeah, you just go to They don't have a menu.

Alicea

Why do they not have a menu? I don't know. That's insane. Okay, so there's things like this is definitely a sweet shot. There's things like uh Werther's original caramel butter bar. That sounds really good. Really good. Um, they have the candied apples, chocolate chip cookies, the giraffe cookies, sugar cookies, stuff like that.

Nathan

Yeah.

Alicea

And this time of year, of course, because it is almost July 4th, as we are recording, and they have all the patriotic stuff. But wait a minute. We're there in March, so never mind. None of that's available.

Nathan

There's fudge, there's marshmallows. I mean, I'm probably gonna get a cookie of some shape and or form. Okay. Uh a bottle of water, uh uh at an outside stretch, maybe a rice crispy treat if they have one. Well, but uh probably figure on a cookie.

Alicea

Excuse me, they are Mickey cereal treats. Uh-huh.

Nathan

Uh-huh.

Alicea

What did I say? That was wrong. Rice Krispie. That is branded. Ding. You can't say tater dots either. They're potato barrels. Potato barrels. That sounds really good too. Okay, so we're getting some sort of sweets because you have to have morning sweets before our feathered friends in flight.

Nathan

Exactly. This is just the rules, folks. We don't make this stuff up, even though we're making this up.

Alicea

Okay, okay. All right. So the show for feathered friends in flight is probably about a half an hour.

Nathan

Yeah. 25. Yeah.

Alicea

Yeah. It'll be done at like 1115. Sounds good. Okay. All right. So I'm removing all instances of feathered friends in flight. And let's see what we're doing now.

Nathan

How many times did you have it listed?

Alicea

Three.

Nathan

Oh. Okay. You really wanted to go see some birds.

Alicea

All of them are three.

Oasis Backtrack Then Na’vi River

Nathan

Oh, I see.

Alicea

All right. We are going to the oasis exhibits. I don't even know what this is.

Nathan

The what?

Alicea

Um, what is this?

Nathan

That sounds fun, question mark.

Alicea

Oh, we are going all the way back to the front of the park because the oasis exhibits are the tropical introduction to the park. They feature waterfalls, exotic plants, and a variety of gentle animals.

Nathan

Wheel. What are you doing?

Alicea

I mean, we technically walked through all this already and saw it, but we're gonna go back and shouldn't we take it off the wheel?

Nathan

I don't know. No, it's fine. All right, fine. We walked to the front of the park because we need exercise question mark.

Alicea

Oh, we definitely do.

Nathan

Okay, so I'd say what? Like it's not gonna take that long, but okay uh like 12:30 done? 1230. We just it was 11:15. Holy cow.

Alicea

I was very wrong here.

Nathan

I was gonna say 1145. Okay. Because we got to walk all the way to the front of the park, see some whatever's there right now, and then go back about our day. All right. We should do a different thing, and then probably we're gonna just start getting hungry for some real food.

Alicea

All right, so one more thing here. What do we got? Doot do do do do do.

Nathan

Spin that wheel. The look on your face is not giving me hope.

Alicea

Well, it it was it was okay. I'll tell you where it was about to hit. And that was Collie River Rapids. Oh. It did not hit Collie River Rapids. It did. We are doing Navi River Journey. Your absolute favorite. This ride is horrible. All right. Wait time for the Navi River Journey. 42 minutes.

Nathan

So we're gonna blow an hour on the stupidest ride ever.

Alicea

Yep. So we'll be done at around 12.45.

Nathan

Hey kids, look, black lights and stuff we made up. And oh, an animatronic that doesn't work half the time. It's gonna work this time. I'm telling you, it's a good one. It's probably gonna be a screen. What?

Alicea

Okay, so we're done at 1245.

Nathan

Let me go to I'm gonna take this wheel out behind the shed after we're done.

Alicea

I think we're hungry now after seeing that just absolutely stunning shaman animatronic. Stunning. You haven't seen it, have you?

Nathan

I have. You have.

Alicea

No, I have you actually.

Nathan

I think I have. I've the first time I saw it, it was a screen.

Alicea

Yeah.

Nathan

And then you were like, well, we have to do it again sometime. I'm like, do we? And you said yes. And so we did it again. And it was not the screen. And I'm sorry, I was still unimpressed.

Alicea

Oh, well, I think it's pretty cool. I don't like the ride itself.

Nathan

I'm happy for you.

Alicea

Okay. We are spinning. We are spinning for food. Please

Mobile Order Lunch At Flame Tree

Alicea

do not land on pizza fari. Where are we going? Where are we going? Oh, oh, oh, oh. Dang it. Okay. We can't have lunch. We did not stop it. We did not stop on Pizza Fari. We did, however, land on Zuri's sweet chop. And I think I need to take that out.

Nathan

Yeah, that needs to be removed. We've done that.

Alicea

Yeah, we just we even though we weren't supposed to, we did it. Okay. All right. I'm gonna do this again. I'm spinning again.

Nathan

All right. Spin that wheel.

Alicea

Okay, you'll be happy.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

Alicea

Because there's two on this list that are just phenomenal.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm.

Alicea

The two that I'm talking about here are Satulli Canteen and Flame Tree Barbecue. Both of those have delicious menus.

Nathan

I have a preference for one over the other, but yes.

Alicea

Yeah. Uh well, we are going to Flame Tree Barbecue.

Nathan

Nice. Finally, something on this list hits that I really wanted to hit right then.

Alicea

Flame Tree Barbecue. I don't I don't know that I've actually had anything from Flame Tree Barbecue before.

Nathan

Is wrong.

Alicea

We just haven't. I mean, we will have a chance to do this in not that long.

Nathan

Okay. It's fantastic.

Alicea

So what did you have? Did you have the sampler? Yeah. Okay. So they have it's it's guess what? It's barbecue. What? They have a ribs, chicken, and pulled pork sampler, and that sounds really good.

Nathan

It's all fantastic.

Alicea

It's smoked pulled pork sandwiches, macaroni and cheese with pulled pork, smokehouse chicken sandwich. Mmm. Yep.

Nathan

There's lots of good stuff. They have great sides. It is excellent.

Alicea

Okay. So and we're mobile ordering this.

Nathan

Yeah. Which is totally fine.

Alicea

Yeah. So we were done with Nabi River Journey at 1245. So food, flames URQ, done at like what you think 130?

Nathan

Probably 130. Yeah. Especially with crowd level two. They probably weren't pushing orders out very far at all. It does take them a hot minute to put things together. The seating is right there. Um, it's covered. It's really nice. Although, funny story, there was, I don't know what type of bird it was, uh like a marsh bird, really long legs and a really long uh spiky beak. Spiky? Not spiky, pointy beak. And there's birds that just hang around Animal Kingdom. And this one bird came up and was kind of aggressive at this uh this two-top that had these two young ladies sitting at it, and hopped up on that thing and like started going after their food and spilled over their soda, and it was like wow. It was a menace. It was a menace. And the the cast members came over and rescued them.

Alicea

And um were they freaking out?

Nathan

A little, yeah. Uh gave them a uh a voucher for like another meal. Like, here, go hand this up and like they'll take care of you and get your food like redone and all the rest of that stuff. Like it was they handled it really well, but it was an ordeal. So um, watch out for the birds at uh I mean, yeah.

Alicea

Don't hurt them, but you can yell at them and scare them away.

Nathan

Right. That was not the reaction from these young waves.

Alicea

Oh my goodness. Yeah. Well, I will say that a large number of the population, for some reason, is afraid of birds.

Nathan

I mean, I I kind of get it.

Alicea

Uh, they are flying dinosaurs, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Dino your all right.

Alicea

Lunch was delicious. Mm-hmm. Now what are we gonna go do?

Nathan

I don't know. I have a funny feeling you're gonna disappoint me, though. And by you, I mean the wheel.

Everest Then Festival Of The Lion King

Nathan

So let's spin that wheel.

Alicea

We are going on directly after eating Expedition Everest Legend of the Forbidden Mountain.

Nathan

Okay.

Alicea

All right. Wait time for Expedition Everest Legend of the Forbidden Mountain is 21 minutes. Wow. Not bad at all.

Nathan

Not bad at all. It's gonna take us a little few minutes to walk over there, so figure a half hour to walk over there. So that puts us at two. The ride's probably we'll be generous. We'll just round up, call it 15 minutes till we're done.

Alicea

Okay. Are you talking about we get on to the ride at two or no?

Nathan

We get on the ride at two. It takes a little bit to you know, get seated and all the rest of the stuff and then do the ride. Call it 215. All right. Yeah.

Alicea

All right.

Nathan

We're not like allocating time for bathroom breaks and stuff like that.

Alicea

So that's fine. Yeah, we can hold it the whole time. And we are hydrating, of course. We can hold it the whole time. Yeah, sure. Just don't drink a lot, although we have to hydrate sometimes. Yeah. I it's it's it's in the no, it's in the numbers that we're we are padding a little bit here. So we're okay.

Nathan

That was my point.

Alicea

Okay. All right. After Expedition Everest, where are we headed?

Nathan

Probably the complete opposite end of the park, knowing the wheel.

Alicea

We are going to have a nice sit down and enjoy Festival of the Lion King.

Nathan

Okay. I'm not upset with this.

Alicea

No. Festival of the Lion King is great.

Nathan

That show is awesome. Although we just missed a show.

Alicea

We just missed a show. The next show is at three o'clock.

unknown

Oh.

Alicea

That's okay.

Nathan

Okay.

Alicea

I mean, we are not go, go, go people. It's yeah.

Nathan

Yeah, we'll see Kevin along the way. Uh it'll be fine. We'll make this work.

Alicea

And this is like what, a 20-minute show?

Nathan

Yeah.

Alicea

Yeah. So the show starts at 3. I mean, they don't start letting people in at 3. This they probably start letting people in at 2 30 or 245. 245. Because it takes a while for that theater to get filled and for people to get in and everything. Okay.

Nathan

So the And then you gotta unload.

Alicea

So Yeah.

Nathan

Yeah. Call it uh Yeah.

Alicea

345.

Nathan

Bathroom break. 345.

Alicea

Okay, 345. Festival of the Lion King done.

Nathan

Yeah.

Alicea

Always great to see the tumble monkeys.

Nathan

Absolutely.

Alicea

Yeah.

Nathan

Alright, well, what else we got?

Alicea

All right, now, after we have finished Festival of the Lion King,

Character Meet And Tree Trails

Alicea

we are going to meet Disney pals. It is time for a character meet and greet.

SPEAKER_01

Is it?

Alicea

Yeah. I mean, that's what it landed on.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

Alicea

Um, so at Animal Kingdom, this can be a variety of characters. It could be Mickey or Minnie. Um sometimes it's oh gosh. I don't know what they do now. We haven't done one of these at Animal Kingdom in so long. But I know I can tell you what they used to be. They may not be these anymore, but I know they used to have like Blue and King Louie there you could meet. They used to have Flick and oh, what's the lady ant's name? Ada? I don't know.

Nathan

You're asking the wrong part. I don't know anything about Disney movies.

SPEAKER_01

Um Pixar movies. I'm sorry. Don't come at me. A few moments later.

Alicea

Well, I know you used to be able to do to meet Chip and Dale in their dinosaur outfits, but not anymore.

SPEAKER_01

That's not a thing.

Alicea

All right. I think it it may be Mickey and Minnie in um in their safari duds. Got it.

Nathan

Where is this?

Alicea

It's at Adventures Outpost.

Nathan

Where is this? I don't remember where that is. I remember Chip and Dale were always over in Dinaland, and that doesn't exist anymore.

Alicea

It's to the right of the tree.

Nathan

Oh, it's over near the stage across the way from Flame Tree Barbecue.

Alicea

Yeah. Adventures Outpost. And it's yeah, it's usually Mickey and Minnie.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, got it.

Alicea

All right. Okay, so this will take 30 minutes. Oh, interesting. Interesting. The predicted wait time was 15 minutes. The observed was 30.

Nathan

And I'm gonna be pissed off for all 15 of those extra minutes.

Alicea

I'm it I wonder if they it was lower. Well, I don't know. Why would it be lower for a higher?

Nathan

I don't know. That is that's a thing. That's inter.

Alicea

All right. So timing-wise, it would not take us long to get over there from Festival of the Lion King. Because that's not that far. No, no, it uh no, it would. It'd take about 15 minutes. I had my timing wrong here or my location wrong.

Nathan

I'd say 10, but whatever. It's not that bad.

Alicea

Where is Festival Lion King? Okay, yeah, that's true. Okay. We can just walk over through Asia.

Nathan

Yeah.

Alicea

And then go down the bridge there, and Adventures Outpost is right there.

Nathan

Going east to west across Animal Kingdom isn't bad at all. It's when you have to go north-south and the river gets in the way and all the rest of that stuff. That's when it gets complicated and delayed.

Alicea

Okay, so like 355 start and then it's a 30-minute wait.

Nathan

Plus interaction time.

Alicea

Plus interaction time.

Nathan

So call it 4 30.

Alicea

Okay. What is next after meeting Mickey and Minnie?

Nathan

Don't know. Let's find

Flight Of Passage Finale

Nathan

out. Let's spin that wheel.

Alicea

Yay. All right. We are doing the Discovery Island Trails. It was really close to doing River Rapids, so um I'm happy with the Discovery Island Trails.

Nathan

Yeah. I love seeing what's around the uh tree of life.

Alicea

Yeah. And we're right there, so it's not far to go.

Nathan

Yeah. That actually seems like a decision we would make.

unknown

Yeah. Yeah.

Alicea

So we'd be do a lot, like what, 15, 20 minutes walking around there?

Nathan

Called a half hour, just round up.

Alicea

Five o'clock.

Nathan

Factoring in bathroom breaks.

Alicea

Yeah. Okay. So the park closes at six.

Nathan

Mm-hmm. So we're looking at last things.

Alicea

Yeah.

Nathan

Maybe one thing to do, maybe two if we're lucky.

Alicea

Yeah. Because the park closes at six, we are not going to waste time with food.

Nathan

No, we're not going to do dinner. No.

unknown

No.

Alicea

All right. What are we doing next? We are walking over to Finding Nemo, The Big Blue, and Beyond. No, we're not. We're not. There's no show. I'm sorry. We missed that show.

Nathan

Sorry, Wheel. You're wrong. So once again, let's spin that wheel.

Alicea

We are going over to Avatar Flight of Passage.

Nathan

Well, that's the last thing we're doing today.

Alicea

Because that is a 53-minute wait.

Nathan

Mm-hmm. Great.

Alicea

That's not a bad thing to end on.

Nathan

No, it's not the worst thing to end on. Although.

Alicea

It is much better than Collie River Rapids.

Nathan

100%.

Alicea

Yeah.

Nathan

And also, neither of us have ever done it.

Alicea

I thought you've done it.

Nathan

I have not done it.

Alicea

Okay.

unknown

First.

Alicea

Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. We get we get to do that, even though we probably won't get to do it in real life. We get to go on Avatar Flat Passage.

Nathan

Yay! Yay!

Alicea

And um it was great. It was an amazing ride. I'm so glad I got to do it.

Nathan

Yep. Ditto. Uh-huh. Just transformational.

Alicea

I have walked through the queue and seen Hank in the tank because you gotta.

Nathan

Yeah.

Alicea

It's a really cool queue. I do enjoy it. Um, I just can't, my legs can't get on the ride.

Nathan

I bet you I could do it.

Alicea

You could probably do it, yeah.

Nathan

Yeah. But uh I'll keep you company. Okay. If the kids were with us, I'd say we'd send them over to do Avatar Flight to Passage, and we would go to Nomad Lounge.

Alicea

No, we got we got to do Avatar Flight to Passage. We are done with our Animal Kingdom Day. This was a good day, actually. It was a complete failure.

Nathan

We never made it to Nomad.

Alicea

No. It's okay.

Nathan

Now did you know that the churros at Nomad Lounge are gluten-free and therefore healthy for you?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, baby.

Nathan

I've never said this anywhere else on the show. That's pretty awesome. They're healthy.

Alicea

Yeah.

Nathan

Yeah. That means the calories don't count. They're good for you.

Alicea

It's at Disney. The calories don't count anyway. Where are we going for dinner?

Nathan

Probably Tapolinos.

Alicea

Yeah, that sounds good. All

Wrap Up And Listener Requests

Alicea

right. Well, thank you for joining us on our crazy random day at Animal Kingdom.

Nathan

Yes, this episode was thoroughly planned out. Uh really tight, highly scripted, just full of excellent information. And you are better off in your life from having listened to it. You're welcome, everybody.

Alicea

Yeah. You're welcome.

Nathan

Well, um, yeah, as we wrap up and move on, a reminder that we are not affiliated with Disney or any of its subsidiaries, especially after what you just listened to. Everything you hear on this show is based on personal experiences, opinions, and questionable snack choices. We are, however, proudly affiliated with fun.

Alicea

And not going on water rides.

Nathan

Exactly.

Alicea

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Nathan

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Alicea

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Nathan

Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back in your ears next week. Thank you for flying Star Tours. Bye bye.